AJ and Dean from The Human Abstract provide tips on keeping your fingers warmed up for rocking.
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the tone is always …
the tone is always terrible on FPE-TV, sounds like they are making them play through practices amps with too much verb.
tones not that good
tones not that good
Yeah, maybe. Most …
Yeah, maybe. Most people have a weaker upstroke than downstoke.
well I guess …
so I guess you were right on the attack thing ^^
well I guess instead of perfecting all attacks with the same pickstroke he went for different pickstrokes in which he has a set attack on each of them
Hmm… Well, I …
Hmm… Well, I certainly can’t think why a string would produce a different sound when the only variable the direction from which it starts it’s vibration… I mean, how does the string know which way is up? lol
Eh, guess I’ll have to ask Eric, if I ever get the chance, lol
I kind of agree/ …
I kind of agree/disagree with you in there man, I mean if you listen to some EJ stuff you can heear th subtle tone differences he produces and instead of using the same picking technique with different attacks, he just used different picking techniques to acchieve them, he CLEARLy hay an alternate pickign tone, a circular picking one, a hybrid picking and an economy pcking, a true guitarist for guitarists
Well, in reality, …
Well, in reality, alternate picking is a huge part of directional picking. For example, if you play a melody with 2 notes per string, you’ll use the same picking motions, whether you call it alternate or directional. But your right, for every player, one or the other will be stronger. To use myself as an example, if I were to use alternate picking, it would sound awful because I haven’t used it since I first started playing. I just can’t do it, lol.
theoretically I …
theoretically I think that is right. If you practice anything enough, you can what you want out of it. But I have yet to see an example where the same player’s economy picking sounds like his alternate picking. Like even for players like Paul Gilbert, alternate picking sounds much stronger and that’s why he prefers it I guess. But I wonder if there is someone who can demonstrate both these techniques as sounding the same due to their pick attacks.
Well, actually, I …
Well, actually, I was saying that the arpeggio demonstrated at the Would be better played using economy picking. But, no, if you master your picking technique, you can put an amount of attack on any pickstroke you like.
and are you arguing …
and are you arguing that the tone in economy picking is not different from the tone produced in alternate picking?
You probably know …
You probably know it as economy picking
what is directional …
what is directional picking????????
I think you’re …
I think you’re referring the the attack, not the tone, but I see what you mean. However, both this and the timing issue are only true if the player is unwilling to put in the effort required to master directional picking. What happens is people get alternate picking so ingrained into their playing that when they try directional picking, it’s more difficult and it sounds different and they dont want to try to overcome that. So they end up with a huge speed handicap.
I have an example. …
I have an example. Tone, if you use economy picking you will invariably produce a different tone than alternate picking, and circle picking (thumb and index moving instead of wrist). All are good, used techniques but all of them will produce a differnt tone, this can be really notisable if you listen to some Eric Johnson tunes, you can clearly notice some subtle tone changes by just changing the picking style.
Also when learning, its easier to keep time using alternate picking than economy
likewise, chum.
likewise, chum.
Acoustic, country, …
Acoustic, country, bluegrass, it doesn’t really matter. Wasted effort will always be wasted effort. But I don’t think there will be any convincing you
quite a benevolent …
quite a benevolent endeavor, but i’d say worry more about your own technique than others until you have a little more weight to your statements. not to mention you completely disregarded the other types of playing i mentioned. people have made it to virtuoso status with worse technique. i’d say concentrate on what works for you.
Yes, I own a copy …
Yes, I own a copy of Rock Discipline, I have some Dream Theater, Steve Morse, Joe Stump, Yngwie, I have it all. And I study it as well. But still, and despite the fact that many well known guitarists use strict alternate picking, that doesn’t make it the most efficient method. Sticking to an inefficient picking method will only serve to slow your progress. I’m merely trying to help other guitarists to advance their skills by getting the word out about more efficient picking techniques.
there are certainly …
there are certainly applications in acoustic playing, country, bluegrass, mandolin. guys like morse and subsequently petrucci took that and applied it to the electric guitar. in this case, they’re using it as a warm-up exercise which petrucci slapped into his rock discipline work. i recommend you check that out as well as some of the aforementioned music!
I can’t think of an …
I can’t think of an example myself where crosspicking would be more effective than directional picking, or even as effective, for that matter. Perhaps you have one?
Er, if you thinking …
Er, if you thinking crosspicking is a bad and useless technique with no application, that’s just ignorant.
I thought I replied …
I thought I replied here already, but I guess it didn’t go through. Anyway, my response was pretty much the same as how I just responded to TheLuciferJesus’ comment.
Again, practicing …
Again, practicing bad technique only makes you better at bad technique. There is no reason to practice something that has no practical application. At best, you’re wasting time, and at worst you’re degrading your technique or developing bad habits that will be difficult to get out of later on.
If you watch the …
If you watch the video you can see the very guitarist you’re talking about using proper sweeping technique. This is an exercise. I use it because it makes my picking more accurate. If you have understanding of what is happening you can use it as an exercise rather then it take over your sweeping technique.. Obviously one would want to “sweep” if one is sweep picking. And alternate picking is completely different from sweeping. I doubt practicing one would affect the other.
Alternate picking …
Alternate picking across multiple strings, a la mandolin players. Guys like Steve Morse are famous for it as well as… John Petrucci! Whom these guys obviously idolize. Their warmups are straight out of Rock Discipline. Alternate picking when crossing strings requires more coordination and effort than more economical styles, so it gets your right hand more dextrous. Rock Discipline, look it up!